Comments on: How much tax is collected in the UK? http://holdenassociates.co.uk/blog/2008/01/22/how-much-tax-is-collected-in-the-uk/ Holden Associates, Partnering business Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:58:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: Jason Holden http://holdenassociates.co.uk/blog/2008/01/22/how-much-tax-is-collected-in-the-uk/#comment-289 Jason Holden Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:37:24 +0000 http://holdenassociates.co.uk/blog/2008/01/22/how-much-tax-is-collected-in-the-uk/#comment-289 Gentlemen, thank you for your comments. I find blogs, as with life and personal views in general, result in conflicting views which lead to spirited and sometimes heated discussions, which I enjoy as much as the next. As we all have our own views, sometimes they will accord and others not, but in the spirit of this blog being informative and useful I will now be closing this particular thread to further comments. You are both more than welcome to post relevant comments on other postings. Once again, thank you both for your participation Jason Gentlemen, thank you for your comments.

I find blogs, as with life and personal views in general, result in conflicting views which lead to spirited and sometimes heated discussions, which I enjoy as much as the next.

As we all have our own views, sometimes they will accord and others not, but in the spirit of this blog being informative and useful I will now be closing this particular thread to further comments.

You are both more than welcome to post relevant comments on other postings.

Once again, thank you both for your participation

Jason

]]> By: Richard Murphy http://holdenassociates.co.uk/blog/2008/01/22/how-much-tax-is-collected-in-the-uk/#comment-288 Richard Murphy Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:29:20 +0000 http://holdenassociates.co.uk/blog/2008/01/22/how-much-tax-is-collected-in-the-uk/#comment-288 Alastair You are not barred from my site at all - so long as what you say is useful, non-repetitious and is intended to be constructive. As such, your suggestion that I am not willing to debate is not true at all. I am just not willing to waste my time or my other reader's on comments that do not take things forward. Richard Alastair

You are not barred from my site at all - so long as what you say is useful, non-repetitious and is intended to be constructive.

As such, your suggestion that I am not willing to debate is not true at all. I am just not willing to waste my time or my other reader’s on comments that do not take things forward.

Richard

]]> By: alastair http://holdenassociates.co.uk/blog/2008/01/22/how-much-tax-is-collected-in-the-uk/#comment-287 alastair Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:22:05 +0000 http://holdenassociates.co.uk/blog/2008/01/22/how-much-tax-is-collected-in-the-uk/#comment-287 Richard, if you are not prepared to engage in discussion with me on your own site then it seems somewhat unethical to post cryptic comments at me on someone else's site. Richard, if you are not prepared to engage in discussion with me on your own site then it seems somewhat unethical to post cryptic comments at me on someone else’s site.

]]> By: Richard Murphy http://holdenassociates.co.uk/blog/2008/01/22/how-much-tax-is-collected-in-the-uk/#comment-282 Richard Murphy Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:33:45 +0000 http://holdenassociates.co.uk/blog/2008/01/22/how-much-tax-is-collected-in-the-uk/#comment-282 Alastair Ethics, dear boy, ethics. Remember them? Richard Alastair

Ethics, dear boy, ethics.

Remember them?

Richard

]]> By: alastair http://holdenassociates.co.uk/blog/2008/01/22/how-much-tax-is-collected-in-the-uk/#comment-281 alastair Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:15:46 +0000 http://holdenassociates.co.uk/blog/2008/01/22/how-much-tax-is-collected-in-the-uk/#comment-281 To take Tesco as an example misses the point, and wealthy individuals are equally capable of having expensive and complex structures. I don't claim to have the numbers, but I would guess that if you looked at them then individuals income subject to income tax is the bigger pot. The issue of where corporations pay tax is surely totally separate, and fairness is not the issue - what is the issue is the ability of HMRC to apply the rules. Actually you are quite right that we do hear lots of nonsense about tax avoidance - but remember that this is quite legal. To take Tesco as an example misses the point, and wealthy individuals are equally capable of having expensive and complex structures. I don’t claim to have the numbers, but I would guess that if you looked at them then individuals income subject to income tax is the bigger pot.

The issue of where corporations pay tax is surely totally separate, and fairness is not the issue - what is the issue is the ability of HMRC to apply the rules.

Actually you are quite right that we do hear lots of nonsense about tax avoidance - but remember that this is quite legal.

]]> By: Jason Holden http://holdenassociates.co.uk/blog/2008/01/22/how-much-tax-is-collected-in-the-uk/#comment-280 Jason Holden Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:44:13 +0000 http://holdenassociates.co.uk/blog/2008/01/22/how-much-tax-is-collected-in-the-uk/#comment-280 Alastair, big business have some very expensive and complex structures in place, now do you really think they do this to pay their fair share of tax? It is the smaller business, and those who are under PAYE that pay the biggest share of taxes, as detailed in the link. As you rightly say, individuals/small business do make up the majority in number, but not wealth/earnings/profits, look at Tesco as one example! Richard, a trailer? I hope that you post a trackback here when you post. Alastair, big business have some very expensive and complex structures in place, now do you really think they do this to pay their fair share of tax?

It is the smaller business, and those who are under PAYE that pay the biggest share of taxes, as detailed in the link.

As you rightly say, individuals/small business do make up the majority in number, but not wealth/earnings/profits, look at Tesco as one example!

Richard, a trailer? I hope that you post a trackback here when you post.

]]> By: Richard Murphy http://holdenassociates.co.uk/blog/2008/01/22/how-much-tax-is-collected-in-the-uk/#comment-279 Richard Murphy Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:31:21 +0000 http://holdenassociates.co.uk/blog/2008/01/22/how-much-tax-is-collected-in-the-uk/#comment-279 Jason I think there will be rather more to discuss in this issue within a fortnight Consider that a trailer...... <a href="http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/blog/" rel="nofollow">Richard Murphy</a> Jason

I think there will be rather more to discuss in this issue within a fortnight

Consider that a trailer……

Richard Murphy

]]> By: alastair http://holdenassociates.co.uk/blog/2008/01/22/how-much-tax-is-collected-in-the-uk/#comment-278 alastair Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:09:52 +0000 http://holdenassociates.co.uk/blog/2008/01/22/how-much-tax-is-collected-in-the-uk/#comment-278 why would you think that? Surely individuals make up the vast proportion of those taxed, either through earnings or small businesses. Think about it another way - what is the payroll total on which payroll taxes are calculated - and don't forget the BIKs? I bet it is a lot bigger than net profits earned by companies. why would you think that? Surely individuals make up the vast proportion of those taxed, either through earnings or small businesses.

Think about it another way - what is the payroll total on which payroll taxes are calculated - and don’t forget the BIKs? I bet it is a lot bigger than net profits earned by companies.

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